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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2016, 12:28:43 AM »

Great job good pictures and well done
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:45 AM »

Well done you , and Thanks for the pictures ....  :)
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #92 on: October 03, 2016, 07:33:39 PM »

priced up some track rod ends from Mercedes... they wanted £53 EACH :o

phoned Luscomb Mitsubishi, they tried but they said if i say order the parts then its down to me if they are wrong... they wanted £30 each, a little more reasonable than Mercedes.

went to my local motor factors who i use regularly, £33 for the pair.

one more thing... are there any products out there like engine flush additives for the gearbox? and if there are are they worth it?
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #93 on: October 03, 2016, 09:29:20 PM »

excellent stuff - form a queue  8)

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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #94 on: October 03, 2016, 11:15:53 PM »

There is always a fine line between quality and price....
as you so often quote mr.singh.
You have to be quite careful in what products you buy from
local motor factors (like Eurocarparts & GSF)....as I have
personally seen items like brake slave cylinders being sold by
the likes of the above that are made of cast iron rather than
steel that have been fitted to a Smart that were bigger than
the original OEM parts (overall length and diameter), but
were not working anywhere near as efficiently...in fact they
were replaced with OEM parts when the rear brakes failed
the MoT just 2 months after the 'motor factor' slave cylinders
were fitted and bled 3 times.
The car passed immediately after OEM parts were fitted.
So...if what you see at a motor factor is a lot cheaper than
the OEM parts....be aware of the old saying which goes...
"You only get what you pay for."
« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 11:18:40 PM by CrazyG »
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2016, 08:45:44 PM »

i understand what your saying 'G' but i compared the 2 side by side, both exactly the same length, both exactly the same shape, and the bit that bolts to the hub came with a 17mm nut on the new one but manages to reuse the original nut off the old ones. the new track rod ends are made by a company called first line first line. iv used first line part before and they are of good quality, and i trust the motor factors where i get my parts from, iv used them since i started working on my own cars and thats over 10 years now.

and be right now... who is going to pay £53 for 1 track rod end for a 11-13 year old car? unless you took your car to Mercedes for the MOT and it failed on the track rod end.

i always say, check to see what the price is from the dealer and then have a look else where. in most cases dealer parts will work out cheaper overall. NEVER automatically assume that dealer parts will be over prices.
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2016, 09:11:16 PM »

my 1.1 will be a year since i sold it and i will have had my SB3 for a year in 2 weeks, and it appears that iv fixed everything...

there are a couple of new things that have cropped up but im going to leave them for now.

the things that have cropped up are:
1) there is a squeek from the L/F when going over speed bumps and its been doing this for some time now, possibly a squeaky ball joint. i cant bounce the car to reproduce it cos the suspension is so stiff
2) the horn, id still like to sort out but ill wait till i acquire some horns of a Jag (and/or Land Rover when we move to our new site)
3) need to tweek the track as the steering is slightly of center to the left since i fit the new track rod ends.
4) handling still feels strange from time to time, and the steering feels heavy but thats down to wider wheels fitted over my 1.1
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2016, 09:01:11 PM »

so when i went to Mercedes to pick my new door mirror. i spoke to a lad who i worked with who now works in parts and he will speak to there Smart specialist about the heated seats dilemma im having. i dont really want to shell out for all the heated seats parts and then find out that they wont program in.

on the way back i popped in to work to fit the door mirror and i found a connector that my old 1.1 didn't have... its pre-wired for tweeters ;D... but also got me thinking, is the wiring for the Smart sub there as well and if so would it be worth fitting my old clarion compact sub or try and get the smart original one?

looks like ill be getting a pair of tweeters from Mercedes.
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2016, 08:29:49 PM »

Graham... any news with the heated seats question i asked?

the question was can i code the seats before fitting the elements? i dont want to fit and find out that iv spent all that money on fitting them only to find that they cant be programmed in.
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #99 on: November 29, 2016, 09:14:53 PM »

When I was redoing my gearbox + clutch, I had a look at the barrage of menu items and stuff that was in STAR and I don't recall seeing a option for heated seats so I assume they'll work when physically connected.

I has bought a button bank with the heated seats option in them in the optimistic hope of fitting leather seats to my car (an idea to be resolved yet) and when I pressed the button to start them, it would light briefly and then stop because I don't have heated seats of course. Now that particular behaviour is listed in the owners manual but my point is that as my car doesn't have them and it attempted to start anyway, it makes sense (to me) that they'll work when electrically plumbed in.
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2016, 11:39:14 PM »

Sorry mr singh....that slipped my mind.... :-[

Ocracoke is correct though....they do not need to be coded in,
so if you have the switch 'bank' with the heated switches, then they
should work fine....but check that you have the relay fitted
in the fuse box.  (It is in position 'R')
http://www.forfour.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=64.0

As for the cable/wiring for the subwoofer......NO....
that was a separate bit/piece of loom. BUT...you may be lucky..
Have a 'dig' around under the carpet near the seat. Otherwise
it was only supposed to be fitted if the car was specified with
the the Premium Sound Pack when the car was ordered.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2016, 11:41:08 PM by CrazyG »
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2016, 09:00:25 PM »

ill confirm with mercedes, im not doubting the wealth of knowledge here but merc of leeds have a 'smart specialist' who by the sounds of things knows his shizzel. if 1+1=2 then ill slowly start collecting the bits i need.

i have the old underseat sub i had in my 1.1 'G', but i need to remember which speaker wire goes where... there are 4 signal wires and i forgot to label them up when i removed then and i thing i binned the wiring instructions.... might be worth contacting clarion for the information.

Ocracoke, i assume with the information you gave, you have a STAR?

« Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 09:05:55 PM by mr singh »
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2016, 05:31:11 PM »

i think i took a pic didn't i??

this thread should jog your memory

http://www.forfour.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1774.0


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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2016, 09:30:30 PM »

i cant remember which one goes where, there are 2 plugs one with 12v ignition, 12v live and ground and the other with 4 wires that go to the speakers but i dont know which wire to splice in to at the back of the radio.
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Re: things wrong with my new forfour
« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2016, 09:38:05 PM »

its on that thread

and the wires from the ISO plug of the sub go into the quadlock of the HU have i got that right?

the wires from the sub connector block go into either the 2 x ISO connectors (Radio5) or the Quadlock (Radio6)

you have (from the sub connector)

Grey (Left Rear -ve)
Grey w Red (Right Rear -ve)
White w Blue (Left front +ve)
White w Red (Right front -ve) .... need to check this one as pics don't show v well

Black (Earth)
Red w Black (12v perm)
White (Remote) ....switches the sub on

thats it..... (i think)

does it make sense?

not sure what your other cables are though.

JJ

some pics of the Quadlock connector.....

here you can see where the sub wires double up into the quadlock...







and this one shows how the Blue signal wire goes to the white signal wire that goes to the sub..... (the switch wire)

<<.......bottom closest........>>



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