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Re: Gotta make them last!
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2021, 01:31:27 PM »

The Renault Zoe amongst others already exists to fulfill the need for an electric city car. Why reinvent the wheel?

Check this out: some people convert classics cos they love them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVtOss1U7_s
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2021, 08:17:15 PM »

I’ve seen a few vw campers converted

I think body treatment and painting is so much better these days

I picture it like back to the future 2 where they do hover conversions

Yes please

Petrol will be around for a long time yet (or bio fuels) so the biggest impact will be available spares

No one is gonna keep investing in smart ForFour parts unfortunately

But there are plenty out there to scavenge from

Re-use, reduce, recycle

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2021, 02:28:39 PM »

Purely for info, not having a pop! 😉

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55894912
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Re: Gotta make them last!
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2021, 06:26:06 PM »

Agreed and it’s not coherent BUT most people charge at home.

If you are travelling long distance all the motorway services have them

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2021, 09:45:05 AM »

....it’s not coherent BUT most people charge at home.....

True...but then MOST people who can afford EV's don't live
in homes that have the facilities to park close to them to plug
in an EV.  Millions live where there is little if no off-street parking
and where they could 'possibly' charge up if there were provision
to do so...be that in areas of many large cities, let alone the
suburbs or small towns, or even the many mews in central London.
There are also many many residential estates with no garages,
especially for those who live in flats/tower blocks.

The statistics in that link clearly state that there is a massive
target that will need to be achieved before there is the coverage
that THEY think would be required, but then I guarantee it still
won't be the overage that MOST people would find acceptable.
That's my view on it....some might not agree, so be it.
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2021, 02:45:53 PM »

Conversely if you live in a city then there are chargers everywhere - most lidl now have rapid chargers.

Of course on street charging is hard

Just like trying to run your smart car on v power if you live in the wilds ;)

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2021, 09:55:20 PM »

Interesting company

https://www.everrati.com/

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Re: Gotta make them last!
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2021, 10:53:13 PM »

........If I could convert my Brabus to even have 100miles range I’d love that.

Unfortunately the chassis of the ForFour doesn’t allow much scope for things.........

I am not a chassis expert andneither are you, and at the time of your post I would
have tended to agreed with you, But time has moved on, so I have to say that now
I no longer agree with you after seeing what just a few changes to the suspension
set up made to the performance né handling and lap times of the S2smartsRacing
Brabus over the last year and a bit.
Lap times started to tumble and they have continued to do so with each progressive
change, enhancement, and adjustment right up to the present day.

So, IF anyone were to convert a 454 to EV, then most definitely the chassis
CAN be adapted; after all the chassis itself is steel which can be cut/welded etc;
and together with suspension modifications (fully adjustable coilovers etc)
any issues such as torque steer can be 'dialled out', coupling them in with
control of the electronics/power as well, so do not rule out the possibilities.

However.....like all the hundreds of EV conversions (withj their challenges)
that have and are being carried out around the world on ICE engined vehicles
(as shown and seen on TV), it does require time and money.
But anything is possible, as they say.

Who knows...in 5 years and the advances being made in 3D printing for example..
who is to say that someone won't be able to produce replica 454 body panels ?
In fact saying that, I remember not that long ago seeing something on TV or
maybe YouTube...of a guy that is 3D printing his own car !
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