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454_1.1_55_2004

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What's this????
« on: January 23, 2021, 08:43:04 AM »

Hi.
Anyone knows what car is this one?
Looks like something british...
Thanks.
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2021, 09:12:57 AM »

Diahatsu Copen, a model from Toyota's junior brand.
Prone to rust, lacking performance, and pretty small inside. The Smart roadster is a far better car even with its somewhat fragile drivetrain.
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 11:40:18 AM »

Thx
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2021, 07:22:33 PM »

Love the copen

Really nice little car and a mini Audi TT look

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Re: What's this????
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 08:57:22 PM »

Another funky little Japanese Kei car is the Suzuki Cappuccino. 650cc DOHC turbo. Unfortunately JDM cars of that era weren’t endowed with much rustproofing, so as with the Copen, in our climate succumb quite badly.  ;)
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2021, 03:27:15 AM »

There were quite a few more as well, such as the Honda Beat, Suburu Vivio, Mazda AZ-1, and Daihatsu Leeza.  They were all made as Kei cars, a class of small city car of strictly limited size and engine capacity, which I think date back as far as the 1950s.  Japanese cities became so crowded that they were the only cars which could be purchased by metropolitan residents who did not own their own space in which to park their car.  By the 1990s the engine limit was 660cc with a power output of 64bhp.  It was the makers themselves who made the agreement to cap horsepower when in the late 1980s sixteen valve engines and turbocharging brought rapid rises in outputs and they feared even more restrictive legislation being imposed on their tiny cars.  There were Kei car versions of vans, people carriers and other larger classes of vehicle.  For a while smart exported to Japan a specially modified version of the fortwo, named the smart fortwo K (see what they did there) which qualified for Kei car status.

https://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/show/2003/eng/PUBLIC/boothguide/Smart.html
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2021, 12:27:13 PM »

I’d love a Kei car :)

The one with the gull wing ?!?

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Re: What's this????
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2021, 07:41:42 PM »

I’d love a Kei car :)

The one with the gull wing ?!?

JJ

That would be the Toyota Sera .  :)





Terrific little car , I'd love one , one was advertised a while back for £5000
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2021, 10:50:15 PM »

Yes I want that :)

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Re: What's this????
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2021, 12:00:24 PM »

Unfortunately the Toyota Sera was NOT a Kei car...
It was made between March 1990 - December 1995
and it was powered by a 1.5 litre petrol.

Interesting to note (from Wikipedia) was that the Sera/EXY-10
was one of the first cars to feature projector headlights  :o

I first saw one of these in Hong Kong in the early 90's and I was smitten
and wanted one desperately, but they're rare as 'rocking horse pooh'
in the UK. Few were actually sold in the UK, there are imported ones.

There's an imported one for sale on Autotrader, near me...
1999 - auto - 72k miles - 5 owners - bodykit (not pretty at all !)
£7995
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2021, 12:20:54 PM »

It was the Mazda AZ-1 that was the gullwing Kei car. I used to have a customer come in with a Sera at the petrol station once or twice, nice enough car. :P

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Re: What's this????
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2021, 12:28:01 PM »

Kinda cute....like a mix of MR2 (Mk.1 rear)
and a Renault Twingo (Mk.1 front).

I quite like it.  None fa sale on Autotrader...
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2021, 12:38:09 PM »

I wouldn't expect so. There are a few on eBay as direct imports but the price is rather astonishing. For my money, I'd get something like a Subaru Sambar or a Mitsubushi i.

The Copen was something I did wonder about getting but I've sat in a Roadster before and figured that was too low for me, the Copen would likely be the same. They did a latter 1.3 option in the UK but that was naturally aspirated and that kind of defeats the point of it being a kei car for me.
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Re: What's this????
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2021, 12:56:15 PM »

Just in case anyone mentions/brings up the Nissan Figaro....
It wasn't a Kei car....it was powered by a 1.0L turbo petrol.

(I think it's f'ugly...some won't though)


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Re: What's this????
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2021, 05:19:53 PM »

It was the Mazda AZ-1 that was the gullwing Kei car. I used to have a customer come in with a Sera at the petrol station once or twice, nice enough car. :P



Yes I want that now :)

Like a mini Ford RS200

JJ
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