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[Big Bad Admin]

[BlackDog]

My Passion Softouch is rated at 138 not 133 

[Problemchild]

If you read the reminder, on the front it states that prices were correct at time of printing and on the back it says that reminders are printed 6 weeks before due !

JJ

[evilution]

My Passion Softouch is rated at 138 not 133 

Doesn't affect the price though.

[BlackDog]

My Passion Softouch is rated at 138 not 133 

Doesn't affect the price though.

This time around 

[Unknown]

The only CDi's to benefit from the lowest paid bracket is the Pure and Pulse, running on steels, no air con with the 68bhp motor hooked upto the softouch.

It is quite amazing that an auto box reduces the price of the tax, has better mpg and performance over the manual offering.

[Problemchild]

Not really - it has 6 gears instead of 5

JJ

[CrazyG]

My apologies Sam  ...I stand corrected..   I thought you had a 1.5 diesel.   

CrazyG

[Unknown]

Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.

[Ferrina]

Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.

Alice is amazing - power and economy without the 'chitty chitty bang bang' sound!

[CrazyG]

Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.

Alice is amazing - power and economy without the 'chitty chitty bang bang' sound!

Are you saying in a round about way that we have here our own  'Caracticus Potts' ! LOL

[CrazyG]

Yes those are all standard on the Passion, but as The Architect rightly points out, they load
you for having them.  Steel wheels are lighter than alloys...so less CO2 produced to move the car,
aircon is extra weight...so again more CO2 produced, and the manual gearbox is in their eyes
not as efficient as the 'intelligent' semi-auto gearbox which changes gear at the optimum time,
so again they predict more CO2 will be produced and load you accordingly.

These draconian taxes only count at the time the vehicle was manufactured, so after it left the
factory you could add bigger wheels, fatter tyres, earth shaking heavyweight stereo systems,
extra horns, mudflaps, roof racks, towbars, and whatever else that would blow the original
cars CO2 figure clean out the window, but you would still only pay the original standard cars tax.
 
So, at the end of the day it's just an excuse for a stealth tax...courtesy of the previous Government.

[iJay]

Yes those are all standard on the Passion, but as The Architect rightly points out, they load
you for having them.  Steel wheels are lighter than alloys...so less CO2 produced to move the car,
aircon is extra weight...so again more CO2 produced, and the manual gearbox is in their eyes
not as efficient as the 'intelligent' semi-auto gearbox which changes gear at the optimum time,
so again they predict more CO2 will be produced and load you accordingly.

These draconian taxes only count at the time the vehicle was manufactured, so after it left the
factory you could add bigger wheels, fatter tyres, earth shaking heavyweight stereo systems,
extra horns, mudflaps, roof racks, towbars, and whatever else that would blow the original
cars CO2 figure clean out the window, but you would still only pay the original standard cars tax.
 
So, at the end of the day it's just an excuse for a stealth tax...courtesy of the previous Government.

so the parker's quote is incorrect. or is based on the automatic version.

[Problemchild]

latest (VED) tax bands as of April 1st 2011 (conservative govt)



JJ

[Unknown]

Basically a car is produce with a target CO2 emission rate BUT every car that leaves the factory goes through a check, like a birth certificate, which gives that individual vehicle its unique emissions output which is then put on the V5c document.

Air con adds weight and an additional load on the engine; alloys are generally wider than steels, so create a higher rolling resistance; the manual gearbox is dependent on the driver obtaining the optimum shift point. There is also adding a bodykit which can up the CO2 because of the drag it creates.

BUT that all said and done the CO2 brackets are wide so a Pulse with softouch and a Passion with manual could be in the same road fund licence bracket.